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Loading Table Of Contents Loading Excerpt Author Notes. Loading Author Notes Michael the Archangel must be Jesus! Now that we know that it is Jesus Himself who is doing the shouting, we can read 1 Thessalonians with new eyes. What 1 Thessalonians is really saying, is that Jesus descends from heaven shouting with the voice of the Archangel. Thus, Jesus is doing the shouting but with His own Archangel's voice!
This comparison shows that the Archangel really is Jesus. Also, there is another point to consider; In both Thessalonians and John, we see that the voice causes the resurrection of life to the righteous dead. The dead in Christ will rise when they hear His voice. Both Scripture must be describing the same event so Jesus and Michael must be the same person. Let's look in the Old Testament for some more evidence. In the book of Joshua, we see that Joshua also saw Michael the Archangel.
This account also presents a strong case showing that Michael is Jesus:. This account in the book of Joshua is very important because we can now "nail down" who Joshua saw. Joshua met the captain of the Lord's host and then we find that it is the Lord! Joshua worshiped Him, and He did not stop Joshua in his worship. In fact, The Lord actually encouraged Joshua to worship Him! This is very significant. It is the proper name of the one true God. Thus the Scriptures itself identifies this person, the captain of the host of the Lord, as God or Lord. This being is definitely not a created being!
He accepts worship and actually encourages that He be worshipped. In addition, He is identified as the one true God, Yahweh! In Revelation, when John tried to worship an angel, the angel told him not to do that: "And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellow servant , and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God : for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy. We are fellow servants with the angels, who serve God. Thus, angels will not accept worship. We are only to worship God! So, what Joshua saw was the Lord! Joshua is told that this ground is holy and he is to take off his shoes.
He is in the presence of the Lord. Thus, the Scriptures identify this Being as God and He actually accepted the worship and the reverence that Joshua gave Him, which no created being of heaven will do. He actually invited Joshua to worship and reverence Him! We also see that Jesus accepted worship when He was on earth! Many times, Jesus accepted the worship of the people around Him A few examples: Matthew ; ,17; Luke ; John ; Hebrews This Divine Being must be Jesus Himself because Jesus said that no one has ever seen God and that He is the one who has communicated with man:.
So, if the Spirit of Christ had inspired the prophets of the Old Testament, then it makes very good sense to say that Joshua talked to Jesus. After all, Jesus is the word of God! Jesus has been the one who has communicated with man. This is why "No one has seen God at any time". What they saw was Christ! Lets look at it from another prospective. Who is that? Who is the captain of the Lord's Host? Now we find that the angels in Heaven are called Michael's angels and that Michael leads His angels in battle against Satan! So, we can see that Michael is indeed the Captain of the angels.
He is their leader. Putting Joshua 5 and Revelation 12 together, we see that Joshua saw a man who identified Himself as the Captain of the host of the Lord. The man also encouraged Joshua to worship Him and in Joshua chapter 6, He is identified as being the Lord. This agrees with the original meaning we had for Archangel: " chief of the angels ". He is a divine being who accepts worship!
In the message to the church in Philadelphia Revelation , we find that Jesus will have a new name:. Now, in Revelation 19, we also see a very important change in the leadership of the armies of heaven.
Michael will now be called by a new name. We now see in verse 13 that it is The Word of God who leads the armies of heaven! Jesus is leading the armies of heaven! Before in Revelation 12 we saw that it was Michael the Archangel who was leading the army of angels. Now in Revelation 19 it is Jesus. Why the change? Things have changed. Jesus now has aspects of Himself that did not even exist before He came to the earth. Jesus is now called by a new name which no one knows: Revelation " And I will write on him My new name. His description is also changed. He came to our world and was victorious! So, He is now called " Faithful and True " see Revelation And His robe is dipped in blood Revelation above.
This is indeed Jesus. We can also see that Jesus now has eyes like a flame of fire and He also has many crowns on His head both found in Revelation These descriptions of Jesus when He comes back to battle against Satan to take back the world show that He has changed from before. These descriptions also show that Jesus has now been given authority to combat Satan and to judge all flesh. So, what is it that makes this change in Jesus? Obviously, His dying on the Cross is the answer. Jesus is now called Faithful and true.
His robe is dipped in blood but also His eyes now are like a flame of fire and He has many crowns on His head. But that is not the only reason for the change. These things have been true for years now. So, something else must have changed! When we study God's word we find that the change will happen in heaven. Both Daniel and Revelation indicate that there will be a court session when the world is about to end.
This heavenly court will decide the fate of Satan. So, it is at that time that Satan's dominion will be taken away from him:. Jesus is then given His dominion, glory, and His kingdom. His dominion will be an everlasting dominion. In Revelation, we find that this heavenly court will give everything to the Father and Jesus when the seventh angel sounds. Thus the kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ:. So, it will not be until the Seventh Trumpet sounds that the Kingdom of God will also include the kingdoms of this world, which is the earth.
At that time, Jesus will reign for ever and ever and all the angels of heaven will rejoice because Jesus has taken His great power and has finally began to reign. This is the reason for the change. Now Jesus is called faithful and true, His robe is dipped in blood. And now He is called by a new name.
His eyes are like a flame of fire and He has many crowns on His head. It is at that time that He makes war against Satan and his dominion and the armies of heaven follow Him. As we continue in Revelation 19 we can see in verses 14, 19, and maybe 21; that the army of heaven is indeed His army. Verses are included along with verses of Revelation Satan gathers together all his armies to battle against Jesus and His army in the final battle in the time of the end Rev This is when Satan is utterly defeated and all those who follow Satan are either placed alive in the lake of fire or they are killed with the sword Rev In Revelation ,, we see that Satan is bound for years before he is completely destroyed.
So, In Joshua 5 and Revelation 12 we saw that Michael is the chief of the angels. He is the leader of the armies of angels in heaven. But in Revelation 19 we see that it is Jesus Himself who leads the armies of heaven against Satan and his armies. Let's look at 1 thessalonians again, along with John , since these two verses describe the same event as we see in Revelation Now, when we connect 1 Thessalonians with Revelation 19; We again see that the Bible helps to identify Michael and Jesus as the same person.
Jesus will come down to give a commanding shout of an archangel's voice, yet He now has new names which reflect what He has done to save you and me. So when Jesus comes to reward His sleeping saints He will come with a shout. It is a voice that is identified as both that of the archangel and that of the Son of God. He will now also be called Faithful and True, His robe will have been dipped in blood, and He will have a name written that no one knows except Himself. We can see that Jesus is not only coming to destroy Satan's power and take the kingdom, but He is also coming to pick up all the people who have followed Him, who are the righteous.
Thus, When Jesus comes down to the earth, He will utterly defeat Satan when He comes, and He will also raise the righteous dead back to life. While the wicked mourn because Christ's coming is a sign of their destruction we also see that the angels will be led to gather together His saints. His angels will not only do the gathering but as we learned from other verses, the righteous dead will be raised to life. Thus, Jesus will lead the armies of Heaven to not only attack Satan and his kingdom of wickedness, but Christ will also redeem the righteous.
Actually, the sound of a trumpet could be just another description of Christ's own shout that raises the dead to life:. We have been concentrating on two aspects of Christ's voice because we needed to identify who Michael is. But when Jesus comes down "with a commanding shout of an archangel's voice " 1 thessalonians and also: "the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God " John There is also a third aspect of the voice we must look at.
Jesus' voice also sounds like a trumpet:. When John was early into his vision, he heard a voice that sounded like a trumpet. So he turned around and he saw one like the Son of Man. This is Christ!
He identifies Himself as the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last. Thus we see that Jesus' voice really sounds like a trumpet in our ears. He is no longer the lowly Jesus as He was on the earth. If we look at 1 Thessalonians , we can see that when Jesus comes down He descends with a shout, the voice of the archangel and with the trump of God!
Thus this shout is the voice of Jesus, it is also the voice of the archangel, and it is also the trumpet of God. It is what His voice sounds like. It must not excape our notice that Jesus still has the same position as being the leader of the armies of heaven as He did before. But now, in addition to having the voice of the archangel, He now has new names and new aspects that He didn't have before. This all shows that Michael the Archangel must be Jesus and is fully divine. He is also the chief of the angels, or the captain of the host of the Lord.
He is the one who leads the angels to victory and He destroys Satan and his dominion! So Jesus must be the one who speaks to us, since He is the Word. Then He became a man and lived among us. It is Jesus who has always declared the Father. This makes sense since He is the Word of God.
He is the one who expresses the thoughts of God. Also, which is interesting is this verse; No one has seen God the Father at any time. If no one has ever seen the Father, then it must have been Jesus, or Michael who was seen by Moses and the others throughout history. When Steven was brought before the Jewish Leaders in the Sanhedrin, just before he was stoned; Stephen started telling the story of their fathers. In that story, he actually says that Moses talked with the Angel on Mount Sinai! Stephen's story agrees with John see above in the specific example of Moses, saying that Moses actually talked to the Angel.
The amazing thing about this Angel is that He has God's name in Him. One reason why many people reject the idea that Michael the Archangel is Jesus, centers on the fact that they consider Michael just to be a created angel. But here we have an Angel who has the name of God within Him.
He is the one who Moses had actually talked to even when he went up to the tops of Mount Sinai! In this text, we find that it was the Spirit of Christ that was in the prophets of old. It was His spirit, the Spirit of Christ that inspired the prophets in the times of the Old Testament. So, if the Spirit of Christ had inspired the prophets of the Old Testament, then it makes very good sense to say, as John said in John see above , that Jesus declares the Father to the world.
Jesus always has declared the Father to the world. If Jesus has been the one who has communicated with man all along then we can see why "No one has seen God at any time". That Rock was Christ. Who is Paul talking about? Let's go to Exodus and find specifically who it is that Paul is referring to, because I have always thought that the angel led them.
He didn't follow the camp of Israel, did He? Paul in 1 Corinthians 10 is specifically speaking of the crossing of the Red Sea and of that cloud where God was. So Paul identifies God as Jesus in the cloud. It is the Angel, with God's name who is in the cloud, that went behind to protect the camp of Israel from the Egyptians. So Paul is clearly saying that the Angel of God is Jesus. Isaiah adds to this thought by saying that the Angel of His Presence has saved, redeemed, and carried Israel all throughout the days of old. Isaiah says that this angel became their Savior!
So the angel that has The Father's name in Him, who is also called the Angel of His Presence has always been the Savior of Israel all through the days of old. He has saved, redeemed, and carried them. It is no wonder that Paul identifies Him as being Christ. We now have an Angel, who is actually identified as the Lord! He is Christ! He is the Angel of God's Presence. Thus God's presence is through this Angel.
If some would want to reject Michael the Archangel as being Christ because He is thought to be an angel; We must stop and look at the Biblical references and descriptions of Christ Himself in the Old Testament. Paul points to Jesus as being this Angel. Thus we know He is divine! All these references point to the fact that Jesus is referred to as the Angel of the Lord. With the wide scope of Biblical references, we know that this Angel is also known as Michael the Archangel. These things about the Angel of God and Michael the Archangel help to confirm that it has always been Jesus all along who has led God's people, even through all the days of old.
It has been Jesus all along who has led God's people! Now, let's get back to God's name, the idea that "My name is in Him". To the historical Hebrews, it meant, "He is my heir, my descendent, the one who will carry on my legacy" Examples of this same use of language for heirs of Abraham and others are found in: Gen , Isa.
This idea of having God say: "My name is in Him", agrees with what is written in Hebrews about Jesus:. Elsewhere, in the Bible, we find that Jesus is the Son of God. He is not a created being, but rather, He is the Son of God. So naturally, Jesus has a more excellent name by inheritance than the angels. Now, lets look into something that is very interesting, and I think, very powerful.
He identifies Himself as having a name that is wonderful! The Angel of the Lord said His name was wonderful. But who's name is it that is wonderful? It is none other than Jesus Christ! The Hebrew word for "wonderful" in Judges is the very same Hebrew word for "Wonderful" in isaiah The Strong index number is and it means incomprehensible, beyond our understanding, wonderful. His name is beyond our understanding and it is incomprehensible to us. In Isaiah , we find that Jesus' name is also incomprehensible and beyond our understanding.
Jesus and the Angel of the Lord are described in the same way. We have also seen that this Angel is Divine and is also identified as the Lord. He is Michael the Archangel. The description of the Angel of God's Presence describes an activity that is Divine in nature where He became their Savior and was afflicted in all their affliction. In His pity, He redeemed them. Lets look further through the Old Testament to see if any further clues can be gathered linking Michael the Archangel with Jesus and the angel of the Lord.
Perhaps the best Old Testament source for connecting the angel of the Lord with God is the burning bush experience of Moses:. The angel of the Lord appears before Moses in a burning bush that does not burn up, yet as we read into the experience above we see that it is God Himself. Also notice that the same thing that was told Joshua was also told Moses. Both were instructed to take off their shoes since they were now standing on holy ground.
It is because they were now in the presence of God! But also notice that the Scriptures specially identify the individual who speaks to both Moses and Joshua. It is the Lord! It is an Angel, yet it is God! When putting all the attubutes that we have studied all together, we must conclude that the Angel of the Lord really is Michael the Archangel. In verse 15 we have a very interesting statement: This is My name forever, and this is My memorial to all generations. Who is it that is speaking here in Isaiah? Jesus used the same name that He used in talking to Moses.
He is the God of the Old Testament who spoke to the various patriarchs! This again points to the fact that Jesus is also Michael the Archangel. Jesus is the one who throughout the history of the Old Testament has communicated to His people as the Angel of the Lord and as Michael the Archangel. Another interesting point is what Jesus said in verse Jesus told the Jews that Abraham rejoiced to see Jesus in His day. He appariently said it in such a way that the Jews realized that Jesus was saying that He knew Abraham personally and had talked with him.
They were incredulous: You are not yet fifty years old, and have You seen Abraham? And He knew what would be their reaction, because they knew what "I AM" refered to, and they would not allow themselves to believe that all the prophecies were being fulfilled. Jesus is I AM. He said that He knew and talked to Abraham and that Abraham knew Him! Now, if we compare Zechariah 3 with Jude an additional connection can be made to link Michael the Archangel with the Angel of the Lord.
In addition this is another example where the Angel of the Lord is identified as God. In Zechariah, we see Joshua the high priest standing before the Angel of the Lord. Satan, the accuser, is also present to oppose what the Angel of the Lord is doing. In the second verse, the Angel of the Lord starts speaking to Satan. Because of all that we have researched on this page, we know that the Angel is not the Father speaking. Why would the Father say: "The Lord rebuke you"?
No, it is not the Father. It is the Son! One Lord is speaking of the other Lord. At the time He leaves the rebuking to the Father. But, God will judge in the heavenly court and Jesus will be given the kingdom at that time See the answer to question 12 at the bottom of the page for details. Jude is an interesting parallel. In it we see Michael the Archangel doing the very same thing that the angel of the Lord did in Zechariah. But this time it is Michael the Archangel saying: "The Lord rebuke you". The three things in common that connect Zechariah and Jude are: 1 They are referring to the same person.
The Angel of the Lord is Michael the archangel. Both times He says: "the Lord rebuke you". So Satan is approached in the same way. So we again have the Angel of the Lord identified as Lord. The Angel of the Lord is shown to be God. Also remember that we have already seen a direct link between the Angel of the Lord and Jesus. Some use Jude to show that Michael and Jesus are not the same individual Jude is more thoroughly discussed near the end of this web page. However we now see that Jude in connection with Zechariah is really an evidence showing that the Angel of the Lord is actually Michael or Jesus.
The angel of the Lord came to Hagar several times. We see that Hagar realized that it was God who talked to her:. We also see that while the angel of God was with Hagar that God opened her eyes. Who could it be that will make a great nation of the boy. Not an angel but God.
And we see that the speaker identifies Himself as I. So here we have the angel of God saying that He will make the boy great. Who could this angel be? It is Michael the Archangel who is now called Jesus the anointed one! I will bless thee, I will multiply thy seed, For now I know that you have not withheld your son from me!
Now look at verses 15 and This is extremely important! I will bless thee and. I will multiply thy seed. Yes, this suggests to me that it is Jesus who had talked to Abraham! It is the viewpoint of the author of this web page, using Scripture as evidence as you have already seen on this page, that all the interaction we see in the Old Testament, which is usually attributed to God, is actually Jesus or actually Michael the Archangel as He is known in Heaven.
I believe that Michael is Jesus Christ. He is the Archangel! I believe He is the one who came down to die for our sins! After all, doesn't Michael's name mean one who is like God? Would It seem fitting that Jesus would have presented Himself also as an angel? When Jesus was on earth, He presented Himself as a man.
Looking at Christ's mission on Earth we see that He acts as the go between, an intercessor. Jesus is the one who connects man with God. It was Christ's mission to show us the Father. It was Christ's mission to show us what the Father is like. Could it also have been Christ's mission in heaven to show to the angels what the Father is like as well? Some might wonder why this would be necessary since they are all in Heaven where God is.
How is this possible to have the angels being deceived about God when they live in Heaven in the presence of God? We must not forget that there was a war in Heaven. I do not understand why this might be so; How could Lucifer and many of the other angels reject God when they are in the very presence of God? Satan of course, wanted to be God himself and he was some how able to convince other angels to follow him. We also know what Satan is like today; So we know that his position was probably grounded in deceit. Satan must have lied about God in the struggle to convince angels to follow him.
After all isn't that what he does now? Satan did not want the angels to continue to follow God, but rather, he himself wanted the adoration and worship of the angels in Heaven. Today, Satan does not want any of us to follow God's plan for redemption, so he tries to turn people away from God by lying.
He especially lies about God Himself, saying that God is responsible for all the misery on this planet when it is Satan who has caused all the misery. So, Jesus or Michael the Archangel was needed to show to the angels in Heaven what the Father is like as He later did for us. If Satan was able to lie about God in Heaven, there must have been a need for Michael to appear, showing what God is really like. Two thirds of the angels in heaven chose to believe Michael and one third sided with Lucifer who became Satan, the Devil.
It looks like there was quite a spiritual struggle in Heaven as well as the physical battle that is described to have occurred in Heaven.
Today we seem to be having the same kind of spiritual battle and we have the two opposing leaders that we could follow. We could choose to follow either Jesus or Satan. It is our choice whom we will believe. But thank God, that He has sent His Son down to us so that we may know the truth and be saved! Three people have objected to the same issue. Here are the questions, I have placed them together. Why would Jesus not accuse Satan directly when they argued over Moses, because while Jesus was on Earth, He certainly did accuse Satan directly. There are three basic points to consider when we explain the difference between the actions of Jesus on earth versus His actions as Michael.
Point 1: When Jesus rebuked both the Jewish leaders and their father the devil, there were many other people around to listen. I think Jesus said what He said for the benefit of those listening. These people needed to realize that their leaders were leading them in the wrong direction on many issues. These people looked up to the leaders, yet these leaders were preparing them for destruction by their teaching and their rejection of Jesus. They were not good examples to follow.
When Michael faced Satan, the only audience were possibly angels, both evil and righteous. This occurred long after the angels had decided whom to follow. By this time, they all knew the issues involved in the war between Jesus and Satan. In addition, the fate of the evil angels are already decided.
There is no reason why Michael would try to convince anyone at this point in time. It is an example where the Angel of the Lord, whom we know to be Michael the archangel, which we know to be Jesus; He does not directly accurse Satan. Lets look at these Bible verses side-by-side:. We know that it is not the Father speaking. No, it is not the Father, it is the Son! In Zechariah, we see the same thing. The Angel of the Lord does not directly accuse Satan. He says: "The Lord rebuke you, Satan! So Michael and the Angel of the Lord do the same thing, they do not accuse Satan directly.
It should not be surprising to realize that they are the same individual. Those who say that Jesus, God's Son, would directly accuse Satan, by saying: "I rebuke thee", must ignore Zechariah To say that Jesus would not say what He says in Jude is not paying close attention to Scripture. Point 3: Why would Jesus think Satan is a dignitary? To understand the third point, let's look at the context of what is said in Jude Jude is warning of ungodly men coming into the church.
The green text indicates the type of sins that will be brought in. The yellow text indicates that God is no respecter of persons. It does not matter who they are, if they follow Satan, they will be destroyed. In verse 8, speaking evil of dignities, is mentioned as an evil that will come into the Church. Then in verse 9, Jude gave the example of Michael, that even he did not speak evil of Satan, who is the dignitary or leader of our world.
Several questions are in order. Why would Jude think that Satan is a dignitary? What authority does Satan have? We are still praying for God's will to occur on earth as it is in Heaven. We are praying this because His will is still not yet happening fully. Jesus has not yet taken authority. Yes, that is right. Satan is still the ruler of this world.
There is just so much death, destruction, hate, and sorrow all around us. It is still occurring.
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Jesus still has not taken our world away from Satan, and we know that is true because we are still here living in this sad sinful world! In Revelation, starting with chapter 4 we see that there is a court session in Heaven. Daniel refers to this same session in Daniel This occurs at the time of the end. This is the only time that I know of that Satan actually kills someone himself, personally. In Bible times, it took two people to convict someone. Is this needed for the court proceedings? Also, Jesus mentioned to the disciples that Satan will sit in the holy place, sitting where he should not sit:.
This action seems to be "the straw that breaks the camel's back". When Satan sits down as God, Michael stands up Daniel 12 and the battle of Armageddon occurs, which is the time of great tribulation spoken of by Jesus:. God attacks Satan and his angels and the end of the world comes as Jesus comes to receive His own. Satan has to overstep his authority before God stands up to take away his dominion. There seems to be a legal battle that is occurring between Jesus and Satan.
Because of what I have read in Revelation, I see that Satan cannot be taken from his position as prince of this world until all the issues are settled. Some of these events which will help decide the case, for Jesus to win, have not even occurred yet, but they will eventually occur and they will be brought up in the court of heaven, in the last days.
So because Michael still does not have the authority that will soon be given to Him, He did not directly rebuke Satan. Today, Michael is still our prince. He is not yet our King and He has not yet taken authority. It is only much later, which is still in the future, when Satan tries to sit down as God The Abomination of Desolation that God stands up and the end of all things comes to be.
Satan has endeavored to overtake God and His Kingdom.
Click the link for a more complete Biblical study of Satan's legal battle. The time that Jesus will rule the earth the kingdoms of this world will not occur until the Seventh Trumpet sounds. It will not be until the Seventh Trumpet sounds that the Kingdom of God will also include the kingdoms of this world, in other words, the earth. See the legal battle page for details. The second question: Matthew and Jude Jesus rebukes satan in Matthew but in Jude , Michael the archangel dares not to accuse satan and instead calls on the lord to rebuke him.
I thought maybe these verses would be interesting to you. I dont know too much about the bible though. This question is different than those found in the previous question. In Jude, there is just a conflict of ownership. Michael and Satan were disputing over the body of Moses. The same is also true for Zechariah which is discussed in the last question. In Zechariah, they are in conflict over Joshua the high priest. However, in Matthew , Jesus is being tempted to sin against God! In addition, Jesus was tempted in His weakened condition of being human and not having eaten for 30 days.
Satan chose Christ's weakest moment. We are all tempted by Satan or his evil angels and it is very serious. Jesus often warned about being tempted. In the garden before He was captured, He found His disciples asleep and He warned them:. We are to watch and pray often that we might be accounted worthy to stand before Jesus. We will not receive His grace and mercy if we do not pray.
Jesus has shown us how we are to win the battle over Satan. Jesus prayed often and when He was attacked by Satan, He resisted the devil:. These are some of the same tools we have been given to fight the enemy. Jesus used the word of God, which is the sword of the Spirit, to fight against Satan. We are also told to put on the whole armour of God so that we are able to stand against the temptations of the devil. Prayer, faith,gospel of peace, righteousness, and the word of God are our tools of warfare.
So we are to fight just as Jesus fought Satan and won! Jesus did not allow Satan's temptations to even be considered in His mind. He showed what was truth to counter Satan's lie. That is what we must do. This is why we must memorize Scripture. The third question: Your analysis and conclusion that the archangel Michael is another name for Jesus was a well constructed argument.
In fact, it threw me for a loop for nearly two days, as you hammered detail after detail.
However, after checking the scriptures, I disagree and would like to share why. Jude KJV - "Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.
I also have a Greek dictionary in my concordance i. The Greek letters comprising kurios are applied throughout the Book of Jude. In particular, let's look at Jude Jude KJV - 14 "And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord commeth with ten thousands of his saints, 15 To execute judgement upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him. What's interesting, though, is that kurios is the Greek word used for Lord in this verse as well.
Therefore, you can equate "Jesus" for "The Lord" in Jude If the archangel Michael was in fact Jesus, you have to assume that the archangel Michael was invoking his name Jesus and rebuking the devil. But we see that Michael "durst not bring against him a railing accusation. Matthew KJV - "But he turned, and said unto Peter, "Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.
In that context, it's hard to see why Jude would suddenly switch and refer to Jesus as Michael. It's true that Jesus has many names, but they always seem to be adjectives or prophetical names. Satan was trying to tempt Jesus with the thought that He really didn't have to die. Later on, when Jesus struggled in prayer with His Father, we can clearly see that Jesus did not want to go through with it. But it is also very clear that Jesus wanted God's will to be done over everything else. Reason 1: Satan was directly attacking Jesus through Peter. Satan wanted to cause Jesus to sin by getting Him to not want to die for humanity.
But Jesus did not give the idea any chance at all, in His mind, of taking hold of His thoughts. He immediately stopped the thought and stopped the disscussion by showing how much of an offense the idea was to Him. Jesus was mindful of the things of God while Peter was being led by satanic desires.
All ladies giving milk will please come early. Apparently only men are considered good enough to keep, the others unmarked men, "maids", little children, and women are to be slaughtered. Jesus Christ came to send a sword through every peace that is not based on a personal relationship to Himself. The pastor recommended prayer, reading the Bible, singing hymns, keeping the lights on, but nothing worked. Then the owner comes and kills the farmers and rents the vineyard to others.
In Jude 9, Michael was not being tempted by Satan as a human. Instead, Satan was disputing about the body of Moses. In Matthew, Jesus was being tempted and He responded as we should respond. We should resist the Devel and he will flee from us James For more information you can check the second question on this page. Reason 2: Peter and the rest of the disciples needed to know what was happening for their own salvation. So, I believe that Jesus was also rebuking Satan for the benefit of His disciples.
They needed to see that no matter how bad His death would be, they also needed to be mindful of the things of God. They also needed to know how easy it was for them to be led and tempted by Satan. They especially needed to know how to have victory in Christ! On the other hand, when Michael faced Satan, the only audience were possibly angels, both evil and righteous.
By this time, they all knew the issues involving the war between Michael and Satan. There is no reason why Michael would try to convince anyone of this group at that point in time. So, I believe that when Jesus was on earth, He came to save all He could. The people right in front of Him needed to hear His rebuke of Satan. They could benefit from what Jesus said. On the other hand, Satan and his evil angels can no longer benefit from anything that He says. That, I believe, is the difference. For more information you can check point 1 in first question.
Your argument that the Lord must always be Christ is a little weak. First I will look at other books of the Bible and then we will also go back and look at Jude. In Revelation, the wicked experienced extreme fright as they saw both Him that sits on the throne and also the wrathful Lamb:. It is clear from Revelation 6 that the Father and Jesus are both coming, not just Jesus. I like the description in Matthew:. Jesus will be at the right hand of power when He comes down. He will come in the glory of His Father. So yes, Jesus will come with the presence of His Father. They will come together.
The description of the Father and His Son is found many places in Revelation. Here is just one of many. At the sounding of the seventh angel we find that the kingdoms of this world become that of our Lord and of His Christ. Here the Father is called Lord and the same Greek word is used: "Kurios". We might wonder what Jude means. Just who is the Lord? Is it Jesus or does it mean both the Father and Jesus? Now when we go back and look at the 4th verse of Jude we find that the word "Lord" is also applied to both the Father and the Son, Jesus Christ:.
Here, Jude uses "Lord" for both the Father and Jesus. So, "Lord" does not automatically mean it is Jesus. We should also be able to see that it is also true for the book of Jude as well. This is a real interesting example. The obvious answer that made the Pharisees mad and not answer, is that Jesus is the Son of God! He is Lord as the Father is Lord. Here we have one Lord speaking of another Lord, just like Matthew listed above. If we were to say that Jesus would not directly accuse Satan, we would have to ignore Zechariah In Isaiah, we see that Jesus will be called many things that are often only attributed to His Father.
So I am not really concerned that Joel talks about both Jesus and Michael in different places because when He confronted for the body of Moses, Michael was not yet Jesus Christ. Just as Isaiah says, a Child is born, who is Jesus, but also a Son was also given. God gave His only Son for us, who is Michael. He then had a new name and His new name has special meaning for us. But when Jesus comes in the clouds, He may have even a newer name and He will have His New Name placed on those who overcome.
It was Jehovah that said may Jehovah rebuke you and it appears the angel was relaying Gods message to Satan. To answer your question, lets start with the Angel. In Exodus we find that this Angel has God's name in Him. So, this Angel has God's name. Paul in 1 Corinthians 10 is specifically speaking of the crossing of the red sea and of that cloud where God was. So Paul identifies Him as Jesus. Now in Exodus, we see that it is the Angel of God who is in the cloud that went behind to go between the camp of Israel and the Egyptians.
These things about the Angel of God help to confirm that it has always been Jesus all along who has led God's people, even through all the days of old. It has been Jesus all along who has lead God's people! To the Hebrews at the time, it meant, "He is my heir, my descendent, the one who will carry on my legacy" Examples of this same use of language for heirs of Abraham and others are found in: Gen , Isa.
Michael has God's name by inheritance. He is God's Son. So Michael's name is incomprehensible, beyond our understanding. If we put the texts together we find that: He has a more excellent name because He has the name of God, of Yahweh. That is why Michael's name is incomprehensible and beyond our understanding.
Since Michael and Jesus are the same person, we should not be surprised to find that they are described as having the same name. Is this not a brand plucked from the fire? We must remember that Michael has God's name in him. It is no wonder that Michael's name is incomprehensible and beyond our understanding! He has obtained His most excellent name by inheritance! Why would the God the Father say: "The Lord rebuke you"? Also, let's not forget what Jesus said when the Pharisees were trying to trap Him in His words. Yes, it has to be Jesus Himself. The obvious answer that made the Pharisees really mad and not answer is that Jesus is the actual Son of God!
They were unwilling to admit that Jesus is the Son of God even in the face of confirming Scripture. So, they were defeated! Yes it is true, when Jesus was on earth, He spoke with authority against Satan and He rebuked Satan on many occasions. This is very different from when Jesus was on earth. But it is the very same way that Michael acted in Jude 9. So, it is easy to understand that Michael is indeed the Son of God later to become Jesus and the circumstances were very different from the later time when He became the Son of Man on earth to be our Saviour.
The fifth question: Two people have asked about the same question. Yes, Jesus and Michael are the same person. However, You must realize that Jesus has indeed changed. He did not become Jesus until He took on humanity and He will forever be as one of us, part of the human family as well as being our Creator. So yes, Michael and Jesus are the same individual, but different.
A good analogy might be that of a caterpillar that turns into a butterfly. Yes, it is the same insect however after metamorphosis it is forever changed. So we call it by different names. Another analogy would be found in a marriage. A young girl growing up has the name of her family. However when she marries her sweetheart she takes on the name of her husband. She is still the same individual but she now has a new name and we would all call her by her new name. At one time, the Son of God was known as Michael the archangel. Now, that He has been made in the likeness of men, He will always be Jesus, the Lamb of God who came down and was made in the flesh to die for our sins.
He is now the anointed of God. Best of all He will always be our Saviour. In Revelation, we see that Jesus will have a new name that He did not have before. Jesus will write on the righteous, His new name.